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I had to put it like Orkut vs Facebook.It was about Orkut and Facebook but at last it turned into Orkut vs Facebook.Well this is coming from a series of discussion which took place in my facebook profile after I putted a status update as shown in the below image.

After that It got 62 comments and amount of information about social networking came from those comments are immense.So I thought that I should not waste those information in facebook and I should blog it here.I am sharing that not to run down anybody who participated there in that healthy discussion.Now I am putting all the informative comments(skipping which are not that informative) one by one:-

Kuntal Gupta:1 Fact i know is that facebook and myspace were way before orkut.

Bibhas Ch Debnath: Actually FB launched 13 days after Orkut launched. So, I dont think it took the ideas from Orkut(it ’s not possible for someone to build FB in 13days). Anyone thinking that is thinking crap. And I’d also really protest on the point that Orkut’s UI is better..

Aritra Sen:This is info- facebooks 1st named was facemash which was invented by mark zuckerberg on 28th oct 2003,then facebook named as thefacebook after that the final name is facebook and orkut launched on 22nd jan 2004.

Suman Paul: good info then u must have known that facemash was initially only for harvard university students and officially it was launched on feb 2004,,, actually he didn’t know how to create a centralized website untill jan 2004, soon after orkut was launched

Bibhas: Tell SUMAN, that they of course knew how to create a centralized website. FaceMash was a college project. They perfected it into Facebook.

Aritra Sen: and speaking about UI do we get this b-e-a-utifull dropdown comment section in that New orkut which tried to copy facebook but forgot to copy the like button thingy? :-p

Nikhil Wad: I have used Orkut before but as my most of contacts use Facebook, am on FB now. Orkut I feel is used by max students also but on FB I feel its social and business networking too. My side FB gets +1

Bibhas: Actually FB is more Pro than Orkut. if I were to compare, I’d do FB to a Community hall and Orkut to a Open Street. And Not To Forget, Twitter is more like a Classroom..

Jayeeta Sil:for me orkut +1………photo album privacy much better….. most of da time it fails….sum weird thng…it fails to work….i hv myself seen pics frm albums who claim to hv kept under locked settings…it dsn’t happen wid orkut….

Aritra: opsiii in facebook you can do friend specific updates and i hope u know the recent facebook privacy policy and activated that.
for me orkut also +1 for photo sharing as i say orkut is just a photo sharing album for me nothing else to do there

Aritra: Btw its not about facebook vs orkut (in that case facebook will anyday n always) its about is it true- facebook came later after getting the idea from orkut? and whose UI is better?

Nishant Vora: UI is always supposed to be judged by the simplicity and elegancy of it. That’s why MySpace fails at times, because of all that bloated HTML on user’s profile. Orkut maybe better at ‘looks’ with all those themes. Facebook has better features. Right now, if I favorite a video on Youtube, Digg a page, add something to delicious, update my blog, …upload new photos to flickr/photobucket, rate something on my last.fm, start using a new application on my PC (tracked via Wakoopa), and several other instances… All this is automatically shown on my FB profile. Also, I update my Twitter from anywhere.. my PC, mobile web, txt and the updates go to FB. There’s an app on Orkut ‘twitkut’ but afaik it does not automatically update on its own. Nothing of that sort on Orkut. Orkut is simply.. 1 scrapbook. Fill ‘er up with absolutely no thread facility to keep different conversations separately grouped. All Orkut could do to improve is allow comments on status updates in the ‘new Orkut’. That still sucks, if you compare it to Facebook.

Nishant: But then again it goes down to how you use them. In my opinion, I do prefer the communities on Orkut better than FB, or maybe because I don’t even visit any groups here. Or if people do not wish to keep this complexity of threaded messages, they can stick to Orkut for an all-in-one scrapbook.
At this point, there are 3 reasons a person might rant about FB, like whoever you mention in your status:
1) Narrow mindedness. Refusing to migrate to something new. It takes time to adjust, but it will only work out for you if you actively take interest in it….

2) They’re ok with the simple features of Orkut as I said above.. Photos, 1 Scrapbook (to boast of that uber scrapcount which you can’t on FB), and Communities.
3) They’re dumb at everything Facebook has got to offer, they’re an average Internet user, with no need of collaboration or resource sharing, what is easily done via Twitter and FB now, and not really feasible on Orkut. And since they don’t get all this ‘complicated stuff’, they start to rant and complain at how it sucks and cloned and blah blah.

Suman:  hello to all, thats me whom aritra is referring to…
this all started when i said “ orkut ir better”
anyways thanx for all of ur useful opinions…..everyone shared all pros & cons..but now u r diverting frm the topic..
now i would like to add a few things..
1 well as we all know that facebook was launched 13 days later than orkut,,but facebook was started on oct 13 2008 as facemash…then dont u think that orkut also must have taken some time to develope which i dont know, hence i’m considering at the launching date……
2 about the like button i didn’t like it though
3 how a college student is supposed to know about how to create a centralized website.. that too 7 years back…

Nishant: I don’t understand as to why you’re adamant on sticking to arguing over who copied whom (even though it’s pointless). Every service tries to implement some or the other trend from it’s rivals, to keep going. If it doesn’t, the users themselves will start complaining how a certain feature is available on one site, and not on the other. An example is…how Facebook copied tagging users in a post from Twitter. No one’s going to rant over it being copied, rather welcome it for raising the communication bar on Facebook by collaborating via posts with upto 6 friends in a status (tag limit).

Tamoghno Karmokar: I agree that orkut have better interace.but facebook have better support with 3rd party apps and specially mobile.so using facebook is much easier. Just think about it , i upload a picture using flickr2twitter service using my phone’s email client , it automatically appears on my friends twitter timeline and also appear on my facebook. Beat that orkut.

Aritra: @Tamoghno can you explain in what way Orkut has better interface?I know you are not a average Internet user and yes 3rd party apps like Tweetdeck/Hootsuite and we should not forgot about facebook’s notification support for everything (now even you can reply from email notifications)

Tamoghno: by better interface i mean easier to understand. i still need to make people understand the concept of “wall” insted of “scrap”. also more custimization option means its more confusing for average indian people. before customization , facebook looks somewhat blank and confusing to me.

Bibhas: According to the latest Source, The number of active FB user is more than 350 million, whereas Orkut has around 100 million users.. It seems to me that There are some reasons behind this, dont u think? or those extra 250million people are so Stupid that they cant understand User friendliness.. Sigh..

And also Twitter has only around 45 million users but the worldwide traffic in Twitter(14) faaaar more than Orkut(79).
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites

Thanks.